Do political beliefs override everything? What's your opinion?

[The Smoking Man]

You must be missing the pages of world history for the latter part of the 20th century and all of the 21st then DICKWAD.

The world economies can't equalize without the richest countries relinquishing what they have.

No TSM I stated your 'fucking' of another country wont do any good in the long run. I said nothing regarding economies, nice strawman. I also did not represent myself as condoning the actions of the USA currently, which you are attempting to pin onto me.

What I did say is that if your driving factor is the hatred of another country then you are not going to help. Rather (to elaborate) you will become what you hate, and thus part of the problem, not solution, in the long term.

Umm ... so waht kind of a strawman ar you building around me then???

Do you think I am intermarrying and training little assassins called Saddam?

By fucking them up, I mean giving the locals the ammunition they need economically and business wise in KNOWLEDGE.

I am also teaching Computer Science on older technologies like mainframe so that they can domestically capture more of the market like India.

So, yeah, my version of 'fucking America' is providing a flat playingfield ... something that America is EXTREMELY reluctant to give up.

[The Smoking Man]

Menspeak as I understand it:

"Fuck you" = "I may not like what you say but I respect you and hope to carry on the debate with you"

"Dickwad" = "This issue is of personal importance to me so I beseech you to make allowance for me if I should occasionally be carried away by my own passion"

"Fuck them" = "In short, I believe I am fully justified in asserting that the aforementioned deeds incur the wrath of any reasonable and right-thinking men, but I am willing to account for my view in the future when time permits"

"Go fuck yourself" = "Hey, that's good fun, until next time, take good care of yourself"

 

Eat me = Thanks for the translation.

[sophia]

Menspeak as I understand it:

"Fuck you" = "I may not like what you say but I respect you and hope to carry on the debate with you"

"Dickwad" = "This issue is of personal importance to me so I beseech you to make allowance for me if I should occasionally be carried away by my own passion"

"Fuck them" = "In short, I believe I am fully justified in asserting that the aforementioned deeds incur the wrath of any reasonable and right-thinking men, but I am willing to account for my view in the future when time permits"

"Go fuck yourself" = "Hey, that's good fun, until next time, take good care of yourself"

 

Ah, of course, Polly! Thanx for the translation - it makes total sense now. I retract my previous comments re- this Menspeak. Actually, it looks quite fun so I might join in a bit:
  

[UnaBomber]

You must be missing the pages of world history for the latter part of the 20th century and all of the 21st then DICKWAD.

The world economies can't equalize without the richest countries relinquishing what they have.

No TSM I stated your 'fucking' of another country wont do any good in the long run. I said nothing regarding economies, nice strawman. I also did not represent myself as condoning the actions of the USA currently, which you are attempting to pin onto me.

What I did say is that if your driving factor is the hatred of another country then you are not going to help. Rather (to elaborate) you will become what you hate, and thus part of the problem, not solution, in the long term.

Umm ... so waht kind of a strawman ar you building around me then???

Do you think I am intermarrying and training little assassins called Saddam?

By fucking them up, I mean giving the locals the ammunition they need economically and business wise in KNOWLEDGE.

I am also teaching Computer Science on older technologies like mainframe so that they can domestically capture more of the market like India.

So, yeah, my version of 'fucking America' is providing a flat playingfield ... something that America is EXTREMELY reluctant to give up.

No  I did not make any strawman, I stated (again) that 'fucking' another country, ie doing bad things to another country, is stooping to the same level as another country who is fucking everyone else, isnt it? Or is the fucking of the USA ok, just because it is the USA?

No I do not think you are creating little assassins called Sadam, why do you think I think that? Did I even hint at that? Another strawman? 

Well your definition of 'fucking' someone or something has rather a more positive conitation than it reads! To use one of Art's tried and tested expressions, I can only go on what you said, and indeed you said: "I'm doing all I can to put China on the road to riches and fuck the USA" Sorry I didnt understand that you ACTUALLY meant to say: "I mean giving the locals the ammunition they need economically and business wise in KNOWLEDGE."

Education is a good thing and I have no problems with it, it can actually lead to understanding (believe it or not), but that aint what you said, glad we cleared what you actually meant up!

[Drive By]

hey sophia. no drama i wasnt offended. i go through this debate every day with myself and with others. my view on the matter depends on whether i have had a coffee, lunch, a good meeting,etc.

[sophia]

hey sophia. no drama i wasnt offended. i go through this debate every day with myself and with others. my view on the matter depends on whether i have had a coffee, lunch, a good meeting,etc.

I'm glad, Drive By. But one thing intrigues me: a 'good meeting'? I hate meetings, so the concept of a good meeting is strange to me. I have to attend so many meetings, they really cut into my work time (but the bosses know I'll just make up for that at home because I'm so dedicated to my job, so what do they care?). But I can relate to coffee, food, and would add 'amount of sleep' to my list of whether or not I get cranky