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« on: April 10, 2008, 01:27:06 PM »















"Red army" in San Francisco inundated "Tibet independence" forces, if not on spot, you can not imagine how overseas Chinese hope Beijing Olympic Games a complete success.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2008, 05:10:30 PM »

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China condemns Pelosi comments on torch relay
Reuters - Wednesday, April 9 06:36 pm

BEIJING (Reuters) - China on Wednesday sharply denounced comments by speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi in support of anticipated protests at Wednesday's Olympic torch relay in San Francisco.

Pelosi said on Tuesday that she commended those who were expected to protest along the torch's route in San Francisco on Wednesday, saying they would be making a "significant statement that the Olympic ideals of peace and harmony should apply to all people, including those in Tibet and Darfur".

In a statement on the Chinese Foreign Ministry's Web site about Pelosi's comments, ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu called the torch relay in San Francisco, its only stop in the United States, a "grand occasion" between the two countries.

"For some members of the U.S. Congress to set aside the Olympic spirit and the principle that sports should not be politicised, and even to openly encourage interference with and harm to the San Francisco torch relay, completely lacks basic morals and conscience," Jiang said.

"We advise those very few in the U.S. Congress (who are doing so) to immediately stop interfering with and bringing harm to the Olympics and the torch relay," she said.

(Reporting by Jason Subler; Editing by Giles Elgood)
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2008, 05:48:52 PM »

Does anyone understand what Richard Gere says???

I think even the monks were doubtful.

Maybe he should stick to scripts ... after he reads a book on Tibetan history of course.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7329720

Richard ... The monks who say you are a 'reincarnation' of some ancient soul ... they want your proximity to the microphone ... nothing else.

What you are doing is helping them to get back their slaves. They miss having people wait on them hand and foot.

Doesn't it make you doubt 'your place' in this whole thing when the previous 'best friend' of the Dalai Lama was a Nazi Sergeant???

You'll note that Harrier's bio mysteriously starts as his film did with his entry into Tibet ... Sure, they mention he escaped from a British Prison camp in India. What was he doing there?

In his bio, it also states that:
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Heinrich Harrer, noted Austrian explorer and mountaineer, escaped over the Himalaya from a prisoner-of-war camp in British India with Peter Aufschnaiter, and then lived and worked as a fifth-ranked nobleman in the forbidden city of Lhasa.

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Harrer was one of the few people living in Lhasa in the twilight years of Tibetan freedom.

What did a Nazi know of freedom? ... a man to whom the words Black and Jew were synonymous with inferior.

http://www.harrerportfolio.com/HarrerBio.html

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2008, 06:07:44 PM »

It gets better. San Francisco didn't see eye to eye with protesters either Ms. Pelosi:
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Olympic Torch Route Changed in San Francisco
By JESSE McKINLEY



SAN FRANCISCO — The nation’s only chance to see the Olympic flame up close became an elaborate game of hide-and-seek here on Wednesday, as city officials secretly rerouted the planned torch relay, swarmed its runners with blankets of security and then whisked the torch to the airport in a heavily guarded motorcade.

The closing ceremony to mark the flame’s only North American stop was also effectively canceled in the face of thousands of protesters and supporters, who waited for hours in vain along the flame’s announced route.

Instead, officials decided that the flame would leapfrog protesters and travel on a central avenue about two miles away.

There, surrounded by uniformed officers and police on motorcycles, it was run in stop-and-start fashion toward the Golden Gate Bridge, chased by a throng of surprised residents and members of the news media.

“It was like the slowest car chase ever,” said Annie Ingamells, 42, a Briton who caught a glimpse of the flame with her daughter Ruby. “I guess that tactic worked.”

About four miles into the route, the torch was placed on a bus and taken to San Francisco’s airport, where it will fly to Buenos Aires, the next stop on the flame’s beleaguered international tour.

San Francisco went to elaborate lengths to avoid the messy chaos of the flame’s recent trips to London and Paris, employing hundreds of law enforcement officials, miles of barricades and, in the end, subterfuge.

Just before the flame’s planned debut, the police along the announced route put on riot gear, seemingly in expectation of the flame’s arrival.

Mayor Gavin Newsom said the decision to change the route was made shortly after the torch was lighted outside AT&T Park, when it was briefly held aloft by Chinese Olympic officials and then promptly taken into a waterfront warehouse. There, Mr. Newsom said, police officials said they could not assure that growing crowds along the route could be contained.

“It was a simple decision,” Mr. Newsom said. “Do we cancel the event or do we change the event to assure the safety and security of the torchbearers?”

All week, the city had tried to walk the fine line between demonstrators who planned to use the torch’s visit to protest the Chinese government’s human rights record and recent crackdown in Tibet and the area’s Chinese residents, which largely favored the torch relay.

In the end, however, both groups were caught off guard.

“They tricked us,” said Hao Shi, an engineer from Mountain View, Calif., who skipped work to support the relay.

Lhadon Tethong, the executive director of Students for Free Tibet, said the city had engaged in deception tactics that reminded her of those regularly used by Chinese authorities.

“I think it’s a shame for the mayor and the city,” Ms. Tethong said. “The people in this free and democratic country were not allowed to see the torch.”

Sun Weide, deputy director for communications for the Beijing Organizing Committee, said there were no plans to cancel the rest of the relay and called the San Francisco leg a success.

“I think the operation of the torch relay has been very smooth and very safe," Mr. Sun said.

Giselle Davies, director of communications for the International Olympic Committee, said that the topic of the relay would probably come up in meetings this week with national organizing committees but that “there are no plans for the route to change."

Relays earlier this week had devolved into scrums, with the torch nearly being grabbed by protesters in London and the flame having to be extinguished and evacuated via bus in Paris. The San Francisco Police Department called in state and federal agencies and officers from nearby cities to help patrol the relay route. More than 200 officers from the California Highway Patrol were in place to protect state property.

Along the Embarcadero, the waterfront boulevard where the torch was to have been run, protesters and supporters began arriving before dawn, creating a rainbow of colors and causes. Some linked China to the genocide in Darfur, and wore green T-shirts and held green balloons. Those in support of the Games, which begin in Beijing in August, gathered outside AT&T Park, the planned starting point of the relay, waving pink Olympic banners and Red Chinese flags.

As is often the way with protests in San Francisco, the relay also brought out a variety of activists.

“We thought this was a great opportunity for exposure,” said Caroline Nasella, 24, whose organization was In Defense of Animals. She stood holding a big banner that read “China: Stop Your Bloody Fur Trade!”

Some of the pro-China demonstrators had been brought from miles away.

Hai Ming, 37, a Chinese student of civil engineering at University of California, Davis, about 70 miles east, had come to the torch ceremony on a bus chartered by the Chinese consulate.

Mr. Hai said he disagreed with Tibetan protesters who have flooded San Francisco this week. “I think they are crazy,” he said. “The Chinese people are very peaceful. They wouldn’t do what they are accused of.”

As the start of the relay approached, thousands were lining the route, and several scuffles broke out between pro- and anti-China forces. Near Justin Herman Plaza, where the closing ceremony was to have been held, protesters broke through barricades. Outside the stadium, pro-Chinese groups surrounded and taunted a small group of people holding a Tibetan flag, ripping the banner from their hands and chanting “Liar, liar, liar.”

All of which apparently helped convince city officials that a peaceful march along the water was not going to be possible. Shortly after the flame’s lighting, it was taken into a waterfront warehouse, and the game of cat-and-mouse began.

After its abbreviated public appearance, the flame was taken to the airport, where a small closing ceremony was to be held.

Mr. Newsom defended his and his police department’s decision, but said he expected to be criticized for it anyway. “There were no major arrests, no international incidents,” he said. “Just a lot of hurt feelings..”

Matt Richtel, Neil MacFarquhar, Katie Thomas and Carolyn Marshall contributed reporting.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2008, 06:12:46 PM »

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Lhadon Tethong, the executive director of Students for Free Tibet, said the city had engaged in deception tactics that reminded her of those regularly used by Chinese authorities.

“I think it’s a shame for the mayor and the city,” Ms. Tethong said. “The people in this free and democratic country were not allowed to see the torch.”

There you go.

A dissident just equated the San Francisco Mayor to the Chinese Government.

Apparently, if you cross these people by ensuring safety and avoiding conflict, you are 'just like the Chinese Government'.

And what would she have done had she had the chance, I wonder?
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 07:30:58 AM »



Torchbearers David Drabkin (left) and Lisa Hartmayer walk with the Beijing Olympic Games torch in San Francisco yesterday. Facing threats by Tibetan separatists and their supporters to storm the relay, police in the US city made a swift change of the route and shortened the course by half.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 07:55:18 AM »


real photos from France

http://bbs.cn.yahoo.com/message/read_-JUI0JUYzJUM3JUE3JUNBJUMwJUJEJUU3_237380.html?source=TR
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 08:05:45 AM »

watching all of this from outside of china it just amazes me. it has become like a sport for the world. i wonder if the chinese people get a glimpse of it at all and those security thugs travelling with it ever ask themselves "how come everyone else in the world can protest against what they want but we cant". when will the only thing holding uncle hu in power (nationalism) start to crumble.i
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 08:11:04 AM »

good , finally driveby spoke up  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 08:14:28 AM »

Look  , we have drawn so many people' attention before the OLYMPIC starts.

what a charm of China  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 08:30:09 AM »

i think china is using that well known PR firm smith & weston
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM »

watching all of this from outside of china it just amazes me. it has become like a sport for the world. i wonder if the chinese people get a glimpse of it at all and those security thugs travelling with it ever ask themselves "how come everyone else in the world can protest against what they want but we cant". when will the only thing holding uncle hu in power (nationalism) start to crumble.i

China collapse theory? Yeah, dream harder, it will come true one day.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 11:07:10 AM »

i think china is using that well known PR firm smith & weston

You could be right, I wouldn't know these things.  Does make you think though, there is nothing in the west that cannot be bought.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 07:09:07 PM »

i think china is using that well known PR firm smith & weston

You could be right, I wouldn't know these things.  Does make you think though, there is nothing in the west that cannot be bought.
Driveby was being facetious. Smith and Weston is a common mis-spelling of Smith and Wesson, famous gun smiths, the largest manufacturer of hand guns in the US.
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